Thursday, November 14, 2013

Machiavelli and Thoreau - Being the Citizens


Machiavelli and Thoreau have similar attitudes towards the general citizen and man. Both see all men as dumb and naïve while Thoreau sees the same, but just towards the “general” man.


Both Machiavelli and Thoreau see men as people that follow majority. Thoreau goes to say  “Men generally,... think that they ought to wait until they have persuaded the majority to alter them.” Men feel as though only a great amount of people can go against “ the machine” but deliberately don't see that this has a poor outcome and chance to change for good. Also, they fail to see that to get change they must take effective action; be a “ counteraction to the machine. General men rely on a number to make government better. This strategy only leads to the government keeping and continuing to have more power . As this is Machiavelli's whole purpose for the prince , he too see citizens as dumb; who  “are always impressed by the superficial appearance of things, and by the outcome of an enterprise.” One person alone isn’t sensible enough to distinguish the appearance of being humane, sincere and truthful apart from cruel treatment, lies and harshness. But, as long as he seems humane, sincere and truthful that is exactly what he must be, right? The people are therefore handing the Prince the upper hand in power. Both Machiavelli and Thoreau believe that citizens add to the their authorities power when they follow majority.

Machiavelli and Thoreau continue to have similar thought when it comes to men and citizens Machiavelli and Thoreau both acknowledge that men are dependent on authority, but Thoreau pins point that only to the general man, while a wise man is different. A Prince wouldn’t mind being called a miser, for even though he is “loading his people with exorbitant taxes and squeezing money out of them in every way he can”, he is still a good leader. So I would imply that he too thinks men will easily obey to the prince, in the end ,  thinking he must be burdening them to get a great return in the end . The citizens once again fail to the see that the high taxes, and work they do isn't for the country’s good but rather to beneficially gain power for the prince. Thoreau would say the same for the general man because he too is bending to the governments will. But on the other hand, to Thoreau “A wise man will only be useful as a man, and will not submit to be “clay” and “stop a hole to keep the wind away”, but leave that office to his dust at least” The wise citizen will not be used for the benefit of the Government.  He will not conform to the injustices of the government, but rather leave the government to itself. The general man in Machiavelli and Thoreau's eyes don't have the confidence to be self dependent individuals while the wise man stands apart, a far from authority’s rule.

2 comments:

  1. As we spoke in class, I thought this was really good. You had a consistency in your tone. You compared the two but you didn't lean towards a specific ideology, which I thought made it easier to specify your point. Just make sure to clarify what you mean by the general man and the wise man. It gets confusing and it muddles up what your trying to say. Besides a few awkward sentences that the class went over,like the thesis statement it was fine.

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  2. I really liked your blog post. I think you had some good insight while comparing the two writers. I also thought your neutral tone was interesting. I find that a hard thing to accomplish when comparing these two pieces of writing. However, you're clarity in the first sentence needs improvement. As we discussed in class you need to move your last sentence to the beginning, and clarify that the wise man is Thoreau's wise man.

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